Would Blitzwing and Octane qualify as Turncoats? They were kicked out of the Decepticons (briefly) and befriended or aided the Autobots but never became an Autobot-proper. Should they be included? --DrSpengler 22:13, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Good question, but I don't think so. Octane didn't really LEAVE the Decepticons, since Galvatron just went kinda nuts and kicked him out. And I don't think he really joined the Autobots so much as he befriended Sandstorm.
As for Blitzwing, he did openly state that he had no interest in joining the 'bots. And again, the only reason that he left the 'cons was because Galvatron threw him out.--Octopus Prime- King of the Road! 22:21, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- Cool. Now what about Red Alert? He went insane, teamed up with Starscream and tried to kill all the Autobots. Does temporary insanity qualify one as a Turncoat? --DrSpengler 22:34, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Actually, what about Tarantulas? He left the Predacons on his own accord, but then technically, he was never a member.--Octopus Prime- King of the Road! 22:36, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- That is kinda tricky. What about Doubledealer? Or Punch/Counterpunch? Secret undercover agents don't count as turncoats, do they? --DrSpengler 22:38, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, double-agents should count. I would have added a category for Punch/COunterpunch, except I don't know if there's an article for him
- Red Alert is not a tunrcoat, he never became a Decepticon. Punch/Counterpunch is not a turncoat either, he's an Autobot who goes undercover. He never changes which side he is actually on. --KilMichaelMcC 00:16, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I really don't think Ravage belongs in this category. Ravage was only using the Maximals, recall that he planned to leave "no witnesses," in other words, kill them all. And switching allegiance from the Tripedacus Council to Megatron is still internal Predacon doings.
I think this categoty should be restricted to characters who were members of one faction and actually defected to the opposition. Undercover agents shouldn't count, temporary alliances of convience shouldn't count. --KilMichaelMcC 00:22, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Whenever we get around to making pages for G2 Manta Ray and Leadfoot, they should go in here. --ItsWalky 00:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC)